This should be an interesting conversation today. But here we go. I come from a strong Christian background, both my parents were deacons, and we attended church up to 3 times a week. I believe that the bible is the word of God, but I also believe that for Christians we should have a particular emphasis on the examples, words, and teachings of Christ. We are not called Leviticans, or Mosesists. We are called Christians due to our belief in the teachings, and saving grace of Jesus Christ. In that vein there are a lot of beliefs thats we as a culture and nation have that are not rooted in scripture, or if they are... they are rooted in Leviticus which is Old Testament LAW. The problem with that as I see it , is Jesus came to save us from sin, and redeem us from THE LAW, because ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God and according to Levitical Law we should all be off sacrificing animals or should be somewhere getting stoned to death.
Now, before we go on, this is not a defense of "sin" or "sinning" this is me looking at our actions as a society and seeing how they measure up to the actions, words, and examples of Christ. Read this with an open spirit, and be careful to read not what you want to read, but what is actually here.
Whether it was the story of the Samaritan the adulteress, or the tax collector. Jesus always spoke up for the despised within his community. Samaritans were despised within the Jewish community. Both Samaritan and Jewish leaders forbade contact with one another, so the story of the good Samaritan is not just a story of helping your fellow man, it is a story of Jesus assigning a positive role to one of the despised. Tax collectors were considered sell outs and sinners, in biblical times they were the Uncle Toms of the community. Those who had sold their souls to the Romans to impose taxation on their own people. Yet in still read the story of Zacchaeus, and see how Jesus treated this tax collector who his fellow Jews called "a sinner". He spent the night at his house, he treated him with love and respect.. Lets take a look at the sinner, the adulteress. She lived in sin, and was dragged to Jesus feet, and the crowd was going to stone her. They told Jesus she was caught in the act and by Mosaic Law she should be killed, and they asked Jesus opinion. He said the famous "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" line, and the crowd dispersed. Then he told the woman... "go and sin no more". His saving the woman was no predicated on the fact that she sin no more. Jesus did not demand that she sin no more before he offered his grace, and mercy. He did not demand proof, or demand that she join a 4 step program. Nor did he issue similar demands on the tax collector. His grace and mercy is not dependent upon our ability to stop sinning. Which is a relief because ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
We, in our sin are redeemed by Christ who through grace saves us, in spite of our sin, not because of our march toward perfection. I would argue that Christ spent more time with sinners, and spent more time talking about how to treat "the worst" of society, than he did hanging around those who were the "purest" according to Mosaic law. We have this idea that certain sins are worse than other sins, and most of that has no scriptural basis, but is more based upon own our moral code. If you examine the bible and see what really ticks off Jesus he mentions treating children badly in Luke 17:2, and when he went "Hulk Hogan" on people who were defiling and scamming in the house of God. So really, if you are one of these fake preachers bilking the congregation, or someone who abuses children, you are more likely to be on the LIST than any other "sinner".
Jesus never told his disciples to persecute those undesirables or even sinners, or even those who had lied in order to put him to death, when people did gather to stone the adulteress, he stopped them, and then told her to sin no more, he did not make her ceasing of the sin a prerequisite to his grace. So I find it uncomfortable as a black man in western civilization when Christians find reasons to persecute those who we deem as living in sin. Jesus never gave us a mandate to persecute, we need to learn to differentiate between the word of God, and the moral hang ups of western civilization.
Now, I am not saying I advocate for sin.I am not saying lets have a big Sin-a-Palooza, what I am saying is that through example in word and deed I believe that Jesus gave us a guide on how he wants the "least of us" and the "undesirables" treated in society. I believe that if you call yourself a Christian you can believe that God does not like sin, without feeling as if HE gave you a mandate to be THE HAMMER OF GOD, and go forth an exact his wrath on sinners. I missed that part of the bible, the part where Jesus commanded His disciples that while they were out preaching they should wreak havoc on homosexuals . I missed the part where He told His disciples to not heal the sick if they were gay, or to not feed the poor if they were bi-sexual.
In fact one of the few direct Commandments from the mouth of Jesus are found in the gospel of Mark. Here a teacher of The Law asks Jesus which commandment is the most important. Jesus replies:
29And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31And the second is like, namely this, Thou shall love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Now, if you want. you can go on persecuting, hating and angrily attempting to limit the rights of the LGBT community. But me, my arms to short to box with God, and my closet's got too many skeletons labeled pride, lust, and lies for me to happily throw stones. I'm going to thank God for sending Jesus to save me despite my sins, and love my neighbors the best way I can.
I agree with what you are saying. You've brought out some excellent points, especially how Christ freed us from the law, which seems to be forgotten when Christians are confronted with another person's sins. It's always, "For shame! Are you really a Christian?" Thanks for sharing.
ReplyDeleteHallelujah! They say to love the sinner, hate the sin; but so few people actually can seem to follow through with it.
ReplyDeleteWhy is it that so many Christians seem to get caught up in this false persecution of those who they think are 'too different'? I think it is the problem within many churches that older pastors cannot accept homosexuality, and thus preach it as abomination - when the fact is that in the early church (pre-1200s) homosexuality was accepted. It was only around the end of the 'dark ages' that it came to be seen as unacceptable.
Joseph your points about the Law are also highly astute; if you study the full teachings of Jesus, much of what he says and does is in contrast to what had become the norms within Jewish tradition. He came to replace the OT Law with the Law of Love, which is God's only measuring-stick.
Nobody likes being judged and found wanting; God doesn't see our lives this way, why do we seem to obsess about finding others unworthy?
Peace,
Silver
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ReplyDeleteGreat article...I believe these people parading around with the signs and so on are only how the MSM WANTS to portray Christians.
ReplyDeleteIts been a devicive means for the uneducated masses and for people who haven't picked up a bible in years (or EVER)to further their ignorance by buying into what they're being presented as truth thus redefining and setting their own biased standard of what Christianity really is without becoming acquainted with what Christ taught. You definitely dropped some knowledge where that is concerned. Kudos to you on that.
The problem, though, is not with "older" pastors (Hebrews 13:8) simply put, its people who first deny the name of Christ and his teachings wanting less defined lines and boundaries on how to interpret something that urges them to conduct themselves in a manner above their primal selves. To twist and bend the gospel in order to fit into today's anything goes society.
Even more, its the same said people wanting to demonize and label those who even though they love their gay brothers and sister but do not submit themselves to the homosexual agenda/ideas as bigots and so on. You can usually find them on just about any cable news station.
By the Law we were sinners deserving of punishment and to be ourselves crucified but Christ took our place 1 John 4:14 thus not freeing us from the law but taking our punishment for us for breaking it.
What person wouldn't agree that Thou shall not kill, Thou shall not steal ect are good ideas to maintain a thriving society? After all these are what are laws today are modeled after.
Christians (TRUE CHRISTIANS) can't be told to hate the sin but love the sinner because this is a commandment. Love thy neighbor as yourself, so when we address issues relative to you in the gay african american community like DL behavior, how disproportionate the growing rate among black gays affected with AIDS/HIV , and tell you about the game the Amerikkkan MSM and pharmaceutical companies, and federally funded research machines are playing with you and the FACT that homosexual couples cannot reproduce which G-d has called us to to in replenishing the Earth..well..you're just a "homophobe" (which only means fear of man) And G-d has not given us (the redeemed) the spirit of fear...and then want to point the finger at the church and the conservative right
NO.
I call time out on that crap. Its not about wanting to see others as unworthy of something. If thats the case then we still have a looong way to go with our treatment and overall view of Blacks, Hispanics in this country and how they are treated before we can even BEGIN to address their sexual orientation...
Its about the confusion that starts when opinions are PRESENTED as facts.
I'm OK with the sin and the sinner. My lesbianism is not a sin - even when I'm getting a little somethin'-somethin'. It is not an act or an action - it is a fact of my life. My choice is how to enact that fact and I choose honor, fidelity and love.
ReplyDeleteLaura, there is a great quote by James Marshall Hendrix that I usually end these types of debates with.
ReplyDelete"I'm the one that has to die, when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to."
I present this argument because too often people decide to hide their bigotry behind scripture, yet in the words of Nirvana "they're the one's who like all our pretty songs, and they like to sing along, but they know not what it means."(thats right, I quoted both Hendrix and Cobain that multi-tasking)
And while from a fundamentalist Judeo-Christian perspective there are a lot of things, they would call "sin" I think the problem is not the labeling of the action, or expression, but the persecuting reaction to whatever expression that they deem "sinful".
I say that for two reasons. Number one we have a strong belief in freedom of speech,and I am not going to argue what someone wants to call a concept, I'm more interested in the actions that accompany that concept. Number two, because the bible is clear that even when Jesus considered something sinful, or when people considered something sinalacious (not a word, I know) there was Jesus giving expressions of love, and grace... with the exception of the above mention Money changers in the Temple (whom Jesus Mollywopped, or Smote... but I prefer Mollywopped)
So I make this argument for those who go straight to the sin argument, and do not pass go. Because I feel if you cannot meet and greet someone on their own ideological turf, and destroy their strongholds of inaccurate knowledge, they always have that to fall back on, to retreat to. By engaging in the "sin" argument first, I hope to take that excuse off the table, so we can deal with one of the real issues, which is the corruption of biblical scripture by Western Civilization morals and values.
I'm surprised there aren't more blogs/articles like this out there. Read another one worth checking out (http://threeguysoneblog.com/2013/09/to-my-gay-friends-family-members-and-that-guy-who-lives-across-the-street/)
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